"John T. Hogan brings Thucydides and Plato into dialogue in this book. He does a masterful job of comparing Plato’s and Thucydides’ views of Athens as an imperial power, and their views on Pericles and Alcibiades, the nature and goodness of democracy, the purpose and value of democratic rhetoric, what counts as statesmanship, and more. The most intriguing content in this book is Hogan’s extensive treatment of Alcibiades as Thucydides saw him and Alcibiades, Socrates’ erstwhile lover, as Plato saw him. This book is an excellent resource not only for understanding ancient history but the impact of the decline in democratic rhetoric at any time."

- Laurie Johnson, Kansas State University,

"This book analyzes Thucydides’ presentation of the deterioration of political debate and conceptual categories at Athens during the Peloponnesian War. In so doing, it also explores manifold points of contact between Thucydides and Plato, highlighting their common concerns and persistent examination of contemporaries such as Pericles or Alcibiades. It thus fills an important desideratum of contemporary scholarship, which is entirely lacking in book length studies of the relation between the two authors."

- Edith M. Foster, The College of Wooster,

John T. Hogan’s The Tragedy of the Athenian Ideal in Thucydides and Plato assesses the roles of Pericles, Alcibiades, and Nicias in Athens’ defeat in Thucydides’ Peloponnesian War. Comparing Thucydides’ presentation of political leadership with ideas in Plato’s Statesman as well as Laches, Charmides, Meno, Symposium, Republic, Phaedo, Sophist, and Laws, it concludes that Plato and Thucydides reveal Pericles as lacking the political discipline (sophrosune) to plan a successful war against Sparta. Hogan argues that in his presentation of the collapse in the Corcyraean revolution of moral standards in political discourse, Thucydides shows how revolution destroys the morality implied in basic personal and political language. This reveals a general collapse in underlying prudential measurements needed for sound moral judgment. Furthermore, Hogan argues that the Statesman’s outline of the political leader serves as a paradigm for understanding the weaknesses of Pericles, Alcibiades, and Nicias in terms that parallel Thucydides’ direct and implied conclusions, which in Pericles’ case he highlights with dramatic irony. Hogan shows that Pericles failed both to develop a sufficiently robust practice of Athenian democratic rule and to set up a viable system for succession.
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This book shows how Plato's Statesman and Thucydides' presentation of the moral collapse in Athenian political discourse reveal many points of agreement between Plato and Thucydides.
Preface Introduction Chapter 1: Stasis in Corcyra Modelling Revolution for Thucydides and PlatoChapter 2: Pericles: Aspiring Statesman in Thucydides, General and Sophist in PlatoChapter 3: Athenian Speeches in Book 1: Can the Athenian Empire Aim at Justice?Chapter 4: Democracy, Demagoguery, and Political Decline in Thucydides and Plato: The Debate between Cleon and DiodotusChapter 5: The Melian Dialogue & the End of the Political in the Statesman Chapter 6: Alcibiades’ Desire for Sicily in Thucydides and for Sexual Conquest in PlatoChapter 7: Harmodius and Aristogeiton and Political MythsChapter 8: Euphemus and Alcibiades: The End of the Athenian Logos Chapter 9: Alcibiades as a Traitor and Grand Version of MenoChapter 10: Nicias and the Failure in SicilyChapter 11: Revolution in Athens: Why Democracy FailedConclusion BibliographyAbout the Author
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ISBN
9781498596305
Publisert
2020-07-15
Utgiver
Vendor
Lexington Books
Vekt
689 gr
Høyde
229 mm
Bredde
160 mm
Dybde
27 mm
Aldersnivå
P, 06
Språk
Product language
Engelsk
Format
Product format
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Antall sider
374

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Biographical note

John T. Hogan has a Ph. D. in Classical Languages and Literatures from The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.